Forum zum Fall Natascha

Ich glaube ich spinne: "Wenn sie spricht, dann l?sst sie Bilder von so gro?er Sch?nheit entstehen, dass man den Atem anh?lt.Ihre Stimme und Sprachmelodie sind rein und unverstellt."

Quelle: http://www.vorsicht-starke-worte.de/article.php?sid=418

H?ren wir mal nicht auf ihre Worte und schauen wir mal nicht in ihr Gesicht. Gucken wir auf ihre Bein:

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2006/08/26/internacional/1156611116.html
http://www.globus.com.hr/Clanak.aspx?BrojID=175&ClanakID=4697

Da sehe ich blaue Flecken!! Ich will wissen wer das war. Der macht das vielleicht wieder. Sie ist daf?r Zeugin.


Was sagt sie stattdessen: "Ich werde pers?nliche Grenz?berschreitungen ahnden, wer das versucht, kann sich auf was gefasst machen"

Lebensalltag: "Dieser fand geregelt statt, meist ein gemeinsames Fr?hst?ck, er hat ja meist nicht gearbeitet, Hausarbeit, lesen, fernsehen, reden, kochen. Das war es, jahrelang. Alles mit der Angst vor der Einsamkeit verbunden."

Quelle: http://weblog.derdetektiv.at/archives/2006/08/C38.html

Nach meiner Kenntnis ist diese Kellergeschichte gelogen. Oder warum glauben so viele Leute noch daran?

Hola, Pragma :)
Thank you for the link, it sure was long and interesting... I read sometime ago a similar article in der Standard about this case, an article which related some literature, the nowadays viewpoint of love and relationships and the case of k. and p., similar to the one you posted. It was a little controversial... People tends to see everything like "black" and "white", "victim" and "predator" (although I?m sure the 10 years old n. was the only victim of the kidnapping)... And about literature, yes, similar cases can be found in a lot of told stories. In fact, as you will know, this kidnapping was linked with "The Collector" because of their similarities, and I don?t know if somebody in this forum has seen or knows the film "Sweet Hostage" (it was released in 1975), because they?re INCREDIBLY similar (even P. could have a physical resemblance with the Martin Sheen of this film :rolleyes:)): [URL="http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800149917/info"]http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800149917/info[/URL]
[URL="http://www.lindablair.com/Movies/SweetHostage/SweetHostageGallery.htm"]http://www.lindablair.com/Movies/SweetHostage/SweetHostageGallery.htm[/URL]
Maybe P. saw it at some point? :confused:

@katz123:
I don?t know very well what you mean with the blue spots that she had in the legs, sorry :confused:. If it serves for something, in the "Girl in the Cellar" book Berger said that the blue spots weren?t from violence, but from some type of skin or circulation problem (that didn?t necessarily mean that n. hadn?t suffered violence). But having these blue spots isn?t related with her face. I think she should usually had a good or normal face, cause no neighbour nor p?s friend noted nothing wrong in n. when they saw her... In conclusion, I believe the cellar story is true and that there was a kidnapping of a 10 years old. There were changes through the pass of time, though

[QUOTE]Also gut. Wolfgang (ca 30-40 Jahre) und Uschi (ca 17-25 Jahre) fuhren im roten BMW durch die Lande - m?glicherweise ?ber die Grenze. Der Pegelstand in der Geldb?rse entspricht dem eines mehrheitlich Arbeitslosen mit Liebe f?r schnelle Autos. So ein Paar f?llt doch auf. Wer hat sie gesehen?[/QUOTE]
Well, in the "Girl in the cellar" book was said that police was following up over 30 sightings where p. and k. were supposed to have been. So sure they were observed for some people :p

[quote="Aerith_kun"]Josef Jantschek (p?s neighbour) appeared saying that p usually called Natascha "Uschi" and that he often was in the garden waiting for her saying "where is the Uschi? Where is the Uschi?"[/quote]
http://www.vol.at/news/welt/artikel/der-priklopil-war-ein-klasser-bursch/cn/news-20070803-11360414
[I]Im Nachhinein gab es nat?rlich Ungereimtheiten. ?Er hat immer von einer Uschi fantasiert, mit der er auf den Semmering Skifahren f?hrt. Ich habe ihm gesagt: ?Na, zeigt mir mal die Uschi?. Das hat er aber nicht gemacht?.[/I]

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